Discussion:
new low level hardware support list
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图潘
2012-01-08 00:38:21 UTC
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Hi everybody,

I'd like to point out the coming (inofficial) hardware support list for
freebsd,
currently hosted for testing at

http://freebsd.0fees.net/

The main purpose of this project is to look up supported hardware and their
corresponding configuration in the most detailed way.

At the moment we are at a stage where we require some input in order to
start evaluating the data.


What we need:

We need a few dumps from your freebsd machines, (pciconf, dmesg and
kldstat).
Paste them in the dump form and set a few options afterwards.
The whole procedure will take no more than 2 minutes.

Note

I am note posting this in the forum for a couple of reasons.
First of all, at the beginning we only require a few dumps in order to
start evaluating, so we do not need too many posters.
Second, we do not want to differentiate (too much) with spam and real
posters and sort out the mess in the database, as our
data validation is still very basic.

We have also set up an error/feedback reporting tool, there is no
registration required. Feel welcome to use it if you have some criticism.
From the user input we are able to
+ map device id's to their corresponding device classes
+ map chipsets to vendor/device id's
+ map detailed device information to notebooks.

The first two mappings do not exist yet (at least we could not find them on
the web).
Those lists, once having enough data will be available for download to help
other people process the data.

There are possibly some more mappings to come.


Further stages:

Once we have enough data and have evaluated it all, we will simplify the
input procedure so that most recognition is automated.
This step will require some time, as we will have to go through all the
dumps and find the correct relation in dmesg, pciconf, kldstat etc.

After having a sufficient base of chipset mappings we will be able to read
out the man pages and create the device support from that based on the pci
device id,
which will further accelerate the growth of the list.


As a note, this is not an official project by freebsd, nor a commercial
site. It is only a contribution
site we do in our spare times. If anybody would like to support, check out
the todo list at the site.

pantu
Ivan Klymenko
2012-01-08 11:14:38 UTC
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В Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:37:53 +0100
Post by 图潘
Hi everybody,
I'd like to point out the coming (inofficial) hardware support list
for freebsd,
currently hosted for testing at
http://freebsd.0fees.net/
The main purpose of this project is to look up supported hardware and
their corresponding configuration in the most detailed way.
At the moment we are at a stage where we require some input in order
to start evaluating the data.
We need a few dumps from your freebsd machines, (pciconf, dmesg and
kldstat).
Paste them in the dump form and set a few options afterwards.
The whole procedure will take no more than 2 minutes.
Note
I am note posting this in the forum for a couple of reasons.
First of all, at the beginning we only require a few dumps in order to
start evaluating, so we do not need too many posters.
Second, we do not want to differentiate (too much) with spam and real
posters and sort out the mess in the database, as our
data validation is still very basic.
We have also set up an error/feedback reporting tool, there is no
registration required. Feel welcome to use it if you have some
criticism.
From the user input we are able to
+ map device id's to their corresponding device classes
+ map chipsets to vendor/device id's
+ map detailed device information to notebooks.
The first two mappings do not exist yet (at least we could not find
them on the web).
Those lists, once having enough data will be available for download
to help other people process the data.
There are possibly some more mappings to come.
Once we have enough data and have evaluated it all, we will simplify
the input procedure so that most recognition is automated.
This step will require some time, as we will have to go through all
the dumps and find the correct relation in dmesg, pciconf, kldstat
etc.
After having a sufficient base of chipset mappings we will be able to
read out the man pages and create the device support from that based
on the pci device id,
which will further accelerate the growth of the list.
As a note, this is not an official project by freebsd, nor a
commercial site. It is only a contribution
site we do in our spare times. If anybody would like to support,
check out the todo list at the site.
pantu
Thank you for your work!

What's the fundamental difference your resurs with respect to bsdstats.org?

Thanks.
图潘
2012-01-08 12:11:10 UTC
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Thanks for pointing out the site.
From a first look I would say bsdstats.org is interesting for vendors
(stats about who is using what device on system X) whereas our project is
interesting for users (showing what device is supported on system X).
Thank you for your work!
What's the fundamental difference your resurs with respect to bsdstats.org
?
Thanks.
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Subbsd
2012-01-09 06:36:11 UTC
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Hi
Post by 图潘
Thanks for pointing out the site.
From a first look I would say bsdstats.org is interesting for vendors
(stats about who is using what device on system X) whereas our project is
interesting for users (showing what device is supported on system X).
Nevertheless, You can try to add support of your project into the port
sysutils/bsdstats ( with a permission of the author)
Gathering of the information and periodic post there are already
realized. So if will be in one port it must be wonderful -
project bsdstats receive alternative and another way issued site, and
you get users of port after updating bsdstats version.
Post by 图潘
Thank you for your work!
What's the fundamental difference your resurs with respect to bsdstats.org
?
Thanks.
_______________________________________________
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware
"
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图潘
2012-01-09 08:40:33 UTC
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This sounds like a good idea in terms of automation.
Currently we still have not fully figured out how to extract good and valid
information from dmesg, pciconf, kldstat (and dmidecode). As long as this
is not solved clearly we have to rely on manual user input, as we do not
want too many false positives. (at least for driver support)
For mapping notebook devices, it would be a good way to gather data more
quickly than to actually get the vendors to do this
thanks for the info and keep suggesting :-)
Post by Subbsd
Hi
Post by 图潘
Thanks for pointing out the site.
From a first look I would say bsdstats.org is interesting for vendors
(stats about who is using what device on system X) whereas our project is
interesting for users (showing what device is supported on system X).
Nevertheless, You can try to add support of your project into the port
sysutils/bsdstats ( with a permission of the author)
Gathering of the information and periodic post there are already
realized. So if will be in one port it must be wonderful -
project bsdstats receive alternative and another way issued site, and
you get users of port after updating bsdstats version.
Post by 图潘
Thank you for your work!
What's the fundamental difference your resurs with respect to
bsdstats.org
Post by 图潘
?
Thanks.
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Ivan Klymenko
2012-01-10 16:46:41 UTC
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Post by 图潘
http://freebsd.0fees.net/
Please add FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT...
图潘
2012-01-10 17:53:44 UTC
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added as FreeBSD 10
Post by Ivan Klymenko
Post by 图潘
http://freebsd.0fees.net/
Please add FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT...
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Ivan Klymenko
2012-01-10 20:06:41 UTC
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В Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:51:22 +0100
Post by 图潘
added as FreeBSD 10
Thanks!
Post by 图潘
Post by Ivan Klymenko
Post by 图潘
http://freebsd.0fees.net/
Please add FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT...
Andrey Fesenko
2012-01-12 02:34:06 UTC
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Post by 图潘
Currently we still have not fully figured out how to extract good and valid
information from dmesg, pciconf, kldstat (and dmidecode).
May be worth a look http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/sysinfo
图潘
2012-01-12 09:57:48 UTC
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Thanks for that. We are currently implementing the new engine. The dumps
will be separated between notebooks and os-support, also making use of
dmidecode
Post by Andrey Fesenko
Post by 图潘
Currently we still have not fully figured out how to extract good and
valid
Post by 图潘
information from dmesg, pciconf, kldstat (and dmidecode).
May be worth a look http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/sysinfo
图潘
2012-01-31 10:10:45 UTC
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Hi everybody,

here are a couple of news for those who are interested in the project:

current features:
---------------------------------
+ pci support
+ usb support
+ printer support
+ computers have an apm/acpi section based on the data required by
http://wiki.freebsd.org/SuspendResume#Field_data so apm/acpi
developers could look up the data.

tools:
---------------------------------
We had 2 tools, one to query your machine for unknown devices and
getting driver info from the database (query_pci.sh) and another one
to automatically submit your computer component data (dump.sh)

Sourceforge repository is here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsdware/files/dump-0.1.tgz/download

Unfortunately we had to disable the query_pci.sh just now due to too
high traffic on the freehoster.

dump.sh has been updated, so that the user can choose whether or not
he/she wants to submit dmesg and kernel data due to privacy reasons.

The best solutions for query_pci.sh is either to get a propper paid
hoster or to create an offline version, where you will have to update
the database file from time to time.

best wishes
pantu
Post by 图潘
Hi everybody,
I'd like to point out the coming (inofficial) hardware support list for
freebsd,
currently hosted for testing at
http://freebsd.0fees.net/
The main purpose of this project is to look up supported hardware and their
corresponding configuration in the most detailed way.
At the moment we are at a stage where we require some input in order to
start evaluating the data.
We need a few dumps from your freebsd machines, (pciconf, dmesg and
kldstat).
Paste them in the dump form and set a few options afterwards.
The whole procedure will take no more than 2 minutes.
Note
I am note posting this in the forum for a couple of reasons.
First of all, at the beginning we only require a few dumps in order to start
evaluating, so we do not need too many posters.
Second, we do not want to differentiate (too much) with spam and real
posters and sort out the mess in the database, as our
data validation is still very basic.
We have also set up an error/feedback reporting tool, there is no
registration required. Feel welcome to use it if you have some criticism.
From the user input we are able to
+ map device id's to their corresponding device classes
+ map chipsets to vendor/device id's
+ map detailed device information to notebooks.
The first two mappings do not exist yet (at least we could not find them on
the web).
Those lists, once having enough data will be available for download to help
other people process the data.
There are possibly some more mappings to come.
Once we have enough data and have evaluated it all, we will simplify the
input procedure so that most recognition is automated.
This step will require some time, as we will have to go through all the
dumps and find the correct relation in dmesg, pciconf, kldstat etc.
After having a sufficient base of chipset mappings we will be able to read
out the man pages and create the device support from that based on the pci
device id,
which will further accelerate the growth of the list.
As a note, this is not an official project by freebsd, nor a commercial
site. It is only a contribution
site we do in our spare times. If anybody would like to support, check out
the todo list at the site.
pantu
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